Trump ‘did not appear to suppose it mattered’, says Lammy, when requested if previous important feedback got here up once they had dinner
In his interview with the BBC’s Newscast podcast, David Lammy, the overseas secretary, was requested concerning the dinner he and Keir Starmer had with Donald Trump in New York on the finish of September. An account of the dinner revealed within the Sunday Occasions described it as cordial, and mentioned that Trump supplied Lammy a second serving to, suggesting that this was proof Trump didn’t maintain a grudge concerning the a number of hostile feedback from Lammy previously.
Requested if Trump introduced up these feedback on the dinner, Lammy mentioned:
Not even vaguely. I’ve acquired to say, I discovered him to be a really gracious host.
Requested if Trump actually gave him a second serving to, Lammy mentioned:
He did supply me a second portion of hen. He was very beneficiant, very gracious, very eager to guarantee that we felt relaxed and comfy in his environment. He was humorous. He was heat concerning the UK. Very heat concerning the royal household. I’ve acquired to inform you, [he] loves Scotland …
I suppose what I’m saying is I’ve met the person and ultimately diplomacy – really, simply widespread manners – is specifically constructing relationships [with] individuals. And I feel he’s somebody that we are able to construct a relationship with in our nationwide curiosity as a result of we should.
At that time Chris Mason, the BBC’s political editor, mentioned that Lammy’s previous feedback together with calling Trump a “lady hating, neo-Nazi, sympathising sociopath” who was “a profound menace to the worldwide order that has been the muse of Western progress for therefore lengthy”. Mason suggests feedback like that needed to be an issue, as a result of Trump would possibly weaponise them sooner or later. However Lammy replied:
He didn’t appear to suppose it mattered a couple of weeks in the past.
Requested if he nonetheless agreed with these views, Lammy didn’t disown them. As an alternative he mentioned:
Look, I feel that what you say as a backbencher and what you do carrying the the true obligation of public workplace are two various things. And I’m overseas secretary. There are issues I do know now that I didn’t know again then, and that’s the reality of it.
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Lammy suggests Trump would possibly drop plan for tariffs on UK imports as a result of it might be counter-productive
That is what David Lammy, the overseas secretary, instructed the BBC’s Newscast podcast about how the federal government would reply to Donald Trump’s plan to impose tariffs of at the very least 10% on imports from Britain and different international locations. Economists say this might halve UK progress.
Requested if the federal government would search an exemption, Lammy mentioned he hoped Trump would realise his plan could be counter-productive. He mentioned:
We’ll search to make sure and to get throughout to the USA – and I consider that they’d perceive this – that hurting your closest allies can’t be in your medium or long run pursuits.
Earlier this week Rachel Reeves, the chancellor, instructed that the tariff plans proposed by Trump through the election marketing campaign could possibly be watered down following British lobbying.
Trump ‘did not appear to suppose it mattered’, says Lammy, when requested if previous important feedback got here up once they had dinner
In his interview with the BBC’s Newscast podcast, David Lammy, the overseas secretary, was requested concerning the dinner he and Keir Starmer had with Donald Trump in New York on the finish of September. An account of the dinner revealed within the Sunday Occasions described it as cordial, and mentioned that Trump supplied Lammy a second serving to, suggesting that this was proof Trump didn’t maintain a grudge concerning the a number of hostile feedback from Lammy previously.
Requested if Trump introduced up these feedback on the dinner, Lammy mentioned:
Not even vaguely. I’ve acquired to say, I discovered him to be a really gracious host.
Requested if Trump actually gave him a second serving to, Lammy mentioned:
He did supply me a second portion of hen. He was very beneficiant, very gracious, very eager to guarantee that we felt relaxed and comfy in his environment. He was humorous. He was heat concerning the UK. Very heat concerning the royal household. I’ve acquired to inform you, [he] loves Scotland …
I suppose what I’m saying is I’ve met the person and ultimately diplomacy – really, simply widespread manners – is specifically constructing relationships [with] individuals. And I feel he’s somebody that we are able to construct a relationship with in our nationwide curiosity as a result of we should.
At that time Chris Mason, the BBC’s political editor, mentioned that Lammy’s previous feedback together with calling Trump a “lady hating, neo-Nazi, sympathising sociopath” who was “a profound menace to the worldwide order that has been the muse of Western progress for therefore lengthy”. Mason suggests feedback like that needed to be an issue, as a result of Trump would possibly weaponise them sooner or later. However Lammy replied:
He didn’t appear to suppose it mattered a couple of weeks in the past.
Requested if he nonetheless agreed with these views, Lammy didn’t disown them. As an alternative he mentioned:
Look, I feel that what you say as a backbencher and what you do carrying the the true obligation of public workplace are two various things. And I’m overseas secretary. There are issues I do know now that I didn’t know again then, and that’s the reality of it.
David Lammy performs down fears over Trump presidency and says UK should seize ‘alternatives’ on supply
Good morning. Because the Labour authorities tries to work out what having Donald Trump again within the White Home will imply for Britain, and what it should do in response, David Lammy is completely on the centre of that debate. Partly that’s as a result of he’s overseas secretary, and partly it’s as a result of (in a crowded area) he’s most likely the British MP who has been most outspoken and important about Trump previously.
Lammy has now given a protracted interview to the BBC’s Newscast podcast to debate these points. And, as Jamie Grierson reviews, he dismissed solutions that his previous diatribes about Trump would injury the connection now, describing his feedback as “outdated information”.
However Lammy additionally pushed again in opposition to solutions that Trump’s election could be wholly adverse and he mentioned it might additionally current “alternatives” for Britain.
Requested if he accepted that Trump’s election had made life “tougher” for the UK authorities, Lammy mentioned they will surely be “totally different”. However, when it was put to him that he was simply being diplomatic, Lammy didn’t settle for that. He mentioned he wished to make two factors.
The very first thing is to say that, on the entire, overseas coverage is much less partisan than home coverage. And that’s the case within the American system as a lot as it’s in our system.
The second factor to say is, sure, there might be variations and there might be areas the place we disagree really, I believe.
However there are additionally alternatives and we shouldn’t underestimate the alternatives that there might be as properly. And we should seize these.
Lammy mentioned he thought Trump was proper to argue that Europe wanted to spend extra on defence. Requested about claims that the British financial system could be harmed by the tariffs that Trump plans to impose, Lammy instructed that might be counter-productive for the US, and he instructed that the UK would possibly be capable to get exemptions. He additionally mentioned that in overseas coverage there could be areas the place the UK and a Trump administration had widespread pursuits.
In a world the place there’s warfare in Europe, the place there’s an amazing lack of life within the Center East, the place the US and the UK genuinely have a particular relationship, the place we acquired somebody who’s about to turn out to be once more the US president who has expertise of doing the job final time round, we are going to forge widespread pursuits. We’ll agree and align on a lot and, the place we disagree, we’ll have these conversations as properly, most frequently in non-public.
I’ll put up extra from the interview quickly.
In any other case, it seems to be like a comparatively quiet day. Parliament is in recess. Ed Davey, the Lib Dem chief, is because of be speaking about Ukraine throughout a go to later. And the Reform UK Welsh convention is going down in Newport, the place Nigel Farage is because of communicate at 5pm.
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