Effectively finally, after a 40-minute delay as a consequence of technical difficulties, which Musk blamed on an alleged cyber assault.
It has been dubbed by viewers as a weird and rambly dialog, with many criticising how the previous president made various unusual statements and false claims, with out being challenged through the two hour dialogue.
Our Deputy Political Editor, Jitendra Joshi, helps break down the important thing speaking factors from the interview and provides the most recent updates on the US election because it stands.
Partially two, The Customary’s Junior Vogue Editor, Joe Bromley, joins us to debate whether or not British males are prepared for the return of budgie smugglers? Following a surge in purchases of the controversial swimwear.
Regardless of Brits largely choosing a extra modest swim brief for years now, they’ve remained a staple for a lot of in different European international locations… and now it appears like they’re making a comeback right here too.
Right here’s a completely automated transcript of right now’s episode:
From London, I am Rochelle Travers, and that is The Customary.
My apologies for the late begin.
We sadly had a large distributed denial of service assault towards our servers.
This huge assault illustrates there’s a whole lot of opposition to folks simply listening to what President Trump has to say.
Elon Musk and Donald Trump.
The 2 extremely divisive figures sat down for a a lot hyped reside interview on X on Monday night time.
Effectively, finally, after a 40 minute delay as a consequence of technical difficulties, which musk blamed on an alleged cyber assault.
It has been dubbed by viewers as a weird and ramble dialog, with many criticising how the previous president made various unusual statements and false claims with out being challenged through the two hour dialogue.
Becoming a member of me to interrupt down the interview in additional element and share the most recent updates on the US election is The Customary’s deputy political editor, Jitendra Joshi.
Jit, there was a whole lot of construct as much as the Musk-Trump interview.
It did not go so effectively for the primary 40 minutes after, as you say, a whole lot of hype and a whole lot of construct up.
And for the primary 40 minutes, there was nothing in any respect, as a result of not for the primary time with political appearances involving Elon musk, the technical aspect of it appeared to allow them to down.
Now, Elon Musk claims that that was brought on by a cyber assault introduced on by who is aware of whom bombarding the X web site with requests, technical requests to drive it down.
Some consultants are saying, effectively, what is the proof for that?
, they are not seeing it.
And the corporate X haven’t supplied any such proof.
So, it might extra be just like what we noticed beforehand when musk, after a whole lot of hype, hosted the Florida governor, Ron DeSantis, to launch his presidential marketing campaign, a short time in the past earlier than that flamed out.
Equally, that was launched on X and equally suffered all kinds of embarrassing technical points which got here to outline the looks greater than something DeSantis truly stated.
Then when it did lastly get going, it was constructed by musk as extra of a dialog than an interview, and positively was not something that any of us would acknowledge as a looking investigation into Donald Trump’s views.
It was extra Elon Musk having a loving with the Republican, principally agreeing with the whole lot he stated, and nodding and laughing appreciatively, at the same time as Donald Trump was developing together with his trademark, outlandish claims and outright falsehoods.
That was the following two hours of it.
As you say, there have been various weird moments, in addition to false claims from Donald Trump in there, simply stroll us by a few of these.
Yeah, I imply, a whole lot of them, in the event you’re acquainted with Donald Trump, in the event you pay attention attentively to his marketing campaign speeches, you may be acquainted with a whole lot of these items, together with his extremely doubtful claims about “inflation being at 100 12 months excessive in America”, that “Joe Biden extra lately was pressured out in some kind of coup with a purpose to permit Kamala Harris to run as a Democratic candidate”.
One other one centred on Trump’s claims in regards to the extent of unlawful immigration to the US.
He is now taken to claiming that 22, it is a weirdly particular quantity, “22 murderers have been launched” from, in quotes, “the Congo”.
He does not spell out which of the 2 international locations referred to as Congo in Africa he means, however in any case, “22 murderers from that nation have been launched and despatched to the US”.
It is bizarre and unverifiable.
However the weirdest one was most likely when Trump likened Harris to his personal spouse, Melania, type of praising each their appears whereas attempting to painting Kamala Harris as in some way unpresidential for the best way she was portrayed on the quilt of Time journal in fairly a kind of stylistic artist’s drawing.
You possibly can learn that comparability as kind of saying, effectively, , she’s pretty much as good trying as my spouse, or you might learn it as saying, effectively, , she appears inauthentic and to not be trusted, which fits again to one thing Trump has been one other bizarre declare of Trump, which is that Harris has solely lately began claiming she’s black.
We could possibly be some time right here attempting to clarify what he means.
It is weirdness principally, and perhaps a few of his supporters will get the political level.
Most different individuals are left scratching their heads.
There was one other level that listeners began to select up on, which is that at varied moments, Trump appeared like he had a little bit of a lisp.
Now, there’s all kinds of questions as we find out about age on this marketing campaign.
Joe Biden at 81 was already dogged by extreme doubts about his psychological acuity and finally needed to bow out due to these.
Trump himself is displaying his age generally, and positively to his detractors, the obvious lip lisp was used as extra proof that he is getting a bit outdated and previous it.
I imply, once more, we’re straying into the unknowns right here, and it might effectively simply have been right down to some audio glitch, the place we all know already as we mentioned already that there have been technical points with this.
Do you suppose this interview did something optimistic for Trump’s marketing campaign?
We’re at a degree the place it does not matter a lot what he says for his base as a result of they’ll be with him come hell or excessive water.
As ever in politics, the race issues the floating voters, the centre floor, the few folks left within the US who’ve but to make up their minds.
And it is arduous to see this in itself doing him many favours as a result of in the event you’re a Trump fan, you may like what he says on his marketing campaign stump speech, and you will not essentially be deterred by his extra outlandish claims and outright forcers.
In the event you do wish to hear a candidate, offer you a message that makes you wish to tick their field, and in the event you have been tuning in final night time, effectively, actually there’s nothing optimistic in what Trump has to say.
And that is very a lot a degree that the Democrats have now picked up on since Biden stood down.
They’re now going full ball with the marketing campaign message of what they’d say is hopefulness.
, that it is not all about doom and gloom and a future imaginative and prescient of carnage, as Trump likes to espouse.
, there may be an alternate now on supply.
There’s nothing in what he stated final night time that provides that various, that as a substitute he is counting on the well-worn, relatively dismal, destructive viewpoint that he has, which as I say, appeals effectively to his fervent base, much less so to anybody who’s in search of a optimistic message of change.
By way of the massive image, how are issues trying at the moment with the US election?
Do the Democrats nonetheless have many of the momentum behind them because it stands?
I imply, since Biden left the race, the race has been reworked.
The momentum could be very a lot with the Democrats to the extent that Trump has actually been struggling to reply.
One in all his most elementary flaws, which is arguing about notion when issues like crowd dimension is now attempting to make out that Harris is faking the dimensions of the gang at her rallies.
In the event you recall, on the very first day he entered the White home, this was precisely his criticism, that the media was minimizing the dimensions of the gang at his inauguration, unfairly making comparisons with the kind of numbers that Barack Obama used to drew.
These kind of issues are an obsession with Trump, , the place notion issues greater than actuality.
And all of it comes right down to a kind of virility contest.
As a substitute of enjoying that sport, the Democrats have come again with a really completely different message now.
They’re now not having to defend themselves over Biden’s bodily and psychological stamina, and so they’re attempting to articulate a extra optimistic platform.
And positively that is the case with Harris’ working mate, the Minnesota governor, Tim Walz.
So, and above all, they’re carrying momentum going into their conference subsequent week, the Democrats are after they convene in Chicago subsequent week.
And historically, these conventions act as a platform to offer a little bit of a bounce to that specific get together.
Trump had his personal bounce on the Republican conference, which got here proper after he simply survived that assassination try in Pennsylvania.
No matter bounce he received from that and no matter carry he is received from sympathy over the truth that he was practically killed by an murderer appears to have ebbed away now, and that momentum is now with the Democrats.
Nevertheless, the massive query nonetheless going through Kamala Harris and her marketing campaign is, what does she imply to do?
What’s her coverage on the economic system, on immigration and overseas coverage?
And he or she’s solely simply starting to articulate that.
So, there are large questions forward.
We have got a debate to return up between the 2 in September.
There’s so much that might change between now and November.
Developing partially two, The Customary’s junior style editor, Joe Bromley, reveals why budgie smugglers are making a comeback.
Yr on 12 months searches are up for budgie smugglers 89%.
And people for speedos alone have greater than doubled.
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It is a controversial piece of swimwear that’s apparently having a little bit of a resurgence within the UK.
Regardless of Brits largely choosing a extra modest swim brief for a few years now, they’ve remained a staple for a lot of in different European international locations.
And now it appears like they’re making a comeback right here too.
Joe Bromley, The Night Customary’s junior style editor has been investigating their rise in recognition.
Joe, are we seeing the return of Budgie Smugglers to the UK?
In the event you take a look at the statistics, searches are at an enormous excessive, actually after the outing of the French diver Jules Boyer on the Olympics.
And that’s partially due to his Budgie Smugglers and certainly what they have been smuggling.
However in the event you take a look at the opposite statistics, searches on Listing, which is a procuring app, which supplies fairly good knowledge, discovered that 12 months on 12 months searches are up for Budgie Smugglers 89%.
And people for Speedos alone have greater than doubled.
And so, once I was trying into this, there’s an impartial males’s swimwear model referred to as Abtony.
They usually’ve recorded within the final two years, greater than an 85% surge in gross sales for his or her swim briefs.
And principally, I assume what we’re taking a look at is whether or not or not these little swimming briefs have made their method throughout the channel, due to course you’ve in Europe, our Italian, Spanish, German counterparts by no means actually stopped carrying the finances smugglers.
In France, in actual fact, lengthy trunks are literally banned in a whole lot of swimming pools for hygiene causes.
However we tend to be a bit of extra prudish right here in Britain.
So it is whether or not or not individuals are increase the boldness once more.
What sparked this resurgence within the UK?
Effectively, it has been effervescent for some time.
I believe, effectively, as Luke Day, who’s an enormous superstar stylist right here in London stated, males are actually investing of their our bodies for the time being.
In the event you’ve paid X amount of cash for third area membership, you wish to present it off.
And there is additionally been a few kind of cultural moments this summer time which have pushed them again into the limelight.
So in July, there was leaked pictures of a Dolce and Gabbana marketing campaign with Theo James, most well-known from The White lotus and likewise The Gentleman.
And he was kind of straddling Leonardo DiCaprio’s girlfriend on a speedboat, carrying some tiny white briefs.
They usually have been truly the identical white briefs as those that David Gandhi wears in his Dolce and Gabbana mild blue perfume adverts, which started in 2007 and have develop into a reasonably iconic picture.
So there was Theo James in July.
After which clearly we had Olympic fever kick in.
So, there was Jules Boyer, the French diver.
And naturally, we have been all obsessive about Tom Daley and the remainder of the Group GB divers.
So yeah, and that type of leans in to the origins of the budgie smuggler or the speedo as we all know them right now.
So, to enter a bit of little bit of historical past about them, the kind of sport briefs first gained acclaim again within the 50s when the Australian swimmer label, Speedo, then sponsored the Australian swimming group.
That was the 1957 Melbourne Summer time Olympics.
They took house eight gold medals and type of this picture of a tiny trunk equalling sporting prowess type of took maintain.
So, by the 60s, due to their no drag design, they grew to become extremely popular amongst water sport professionals.
After which by the 70s and 80s, they kind of boomed into this style assertion earlier than reclining in recognition into the 90s.
Do you suppose that is going to be a passing development right here, or might it stick round for some time?
So, the kind of the professionals for them is in addition to displaying off your physique, they’re kind of nicer, extra free to swim with.
For a similar cause that divers like them, there isn’t a drag and you might be kind of free within the ocean.
So, I believe the extra those who attempt that out, the extra folks might be eager to hold that on.
One other superstar stylist who spoke to Tom Stubbs stated that truly they’re type of the anti-trend.
Folks that put on Speedos do not actually care in the event that they’re fashionable or not.
They do them as a result of they benefit from the feeling and so they’re feeling free.
Nevertheless, are they linked to a kind of style development this summer time doubtlessly?
I spoke to my family and friends for this piece to see what they thought.
And truly it was a reasonably divided pool between those who wished to lean out and in.
So it additionally raised a few anxieties, I suppose, for males and their our bodies and the budgie smugglers by way of the those who didn’t wish to attempt them.
They usually kind of ranged from kind of uncontrolled physique hair to worrying about their physique, a few them about their age, and likewise numerous consciousness over their endowment as a result of, yeah, growers not showers weren’t eager on the concept.
So, in that case, I do not know, the development is that folks that wish to become involved, however there’s all the time going to be causes that folks do not wish to put on them.
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